Fogleman: Anthony, would you state your name and where you live for the jury?
Hollingsworth: My name's Anthony Lynne Hollingsworth. I live at route 2 box 1420 Sycamore, in Marion.
Fogleman: Alright. Is that - do you actually live in Marion or do you live in Lakeshore trailer park?
Hollingsworth: I live in Lakeshore trailer park.
Fogleman: And Anthony, I want to direct your attention to uh - a Wednesday night, May the 5th uh - in 1993. Uh - did you uh - go with your mother and others to pick up your aunt - grandmother - whatever she was, at the laundrymat?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Fogleman: Alright. And who all went in the car with you?
Hollingsworth: It was me, my brother, my sister, my mom, dad and my little brother's girlfriend.
Fogleman: Alright. And do you know about what time that was when ya'll went?
Hollingsworth: Let's see, she got off there at 10:30 - I think she got off at 10:30.
Fogleman: Ok. And where did she work?
Hollingsworth: Uh - at a laundrymat on uh - you er - I can't think of the -
Fogleman: - You don't know the street?
Hollingsworth: No sir.
Fogleman: What's it next to?
Hollingsworth: Dog track.
Fogleman: Alright. On the same - which side of the interstate is it on? On the opposite side of the dog track or the same side?
Hollingsworth: The opposite side.
Fogleman: Alright. Is there a Flash Market close to it?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir, right beside it.
Fogleman: Alright. And how did ya'll go to get there?
Hollingsworth: Uh - We went down uh - the service road going to 7th street, uh - and it's right beside um - Blue Beacon and Love's.
Fogleman: Ok. And on the way, going that way, uh - to get your grandmother - is it your grandmother we're talking about that you were going to pick up?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Fogleman: On the way to pick her up, did you see anybody there on the road?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Fogleman: Alright. Who did you see?
Hollingsworth: Uh - Damien and Domini.
Fogleman: Alright. Uh - is the person who you refer to as Damien, is he in the courtroom?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir, he's right there.
Fogleman: Uh - which one?
Hollingsworth: The black hair one.
Fogleman: Alright. Your Honor, may the record reflect the witness has identified the defendant.
The Court: It may so reflect.
Fogleman: Alright. And what did you uh - you said somebody else, who else did you say?
Hollingsworth: Dominique, his girlfriend.
Fogleman: Alright, and what does she look like?
Hollingsworth: She's red headed, about 5'4".
Fogleman: Ok. And thin?
Hollingsworth: Real thin.
Fogleman: Alright. What - about how long was her hair?
Hollingsworth: Uh - about middle ways to her - right here.
Fogleman: Ok. About middle ways?
Hollingsworth: Yeah.
Fogleman: When you say "Middle ways to right here", do you mean it's that long or middle ways between there and her head? (laughs) What do you mean?
Hollingsworth: It ain't real long, but it's not short neither.
Fogleman: Ok.
(courtroom laughter)
Fogleman: Alright. I understand what you're talking about. Alright, and uh - how were they dressed?
Hollingsworth: They were wearing all black.
Fogleman: Ok. And uh - did you notice anything about their clothes?
Hollingsworth: Uh - yes sir.
Fogleman: What did you notice?
Hollingsworth: Uh - it's what you call 'dirty'.
Fogleman: Ok. And after going by there, uh - did you go and pick up your grandmother?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Fogleman: Alright. I don't have any further questions.
Davidson: Now, Mr. Hollingsworth, did you say that uh - uh - you all were on the service road or were you on the interstate?
Hollingsworth: Sir, we was on the service road.
Davidson: You were on the service road uh - when you say that you saw Domini and Damien, is that correct?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Davidson: Ok. Now who - who did you say were in - was in that car?
Hollingsworth: My whole family and plus a girl.
Davidson: Ok. Let's name 'em first. Who's your father?
Hollingsworth: Ricky Hollingsworth.
Davidson: Ricky Hollingsworth, ok. And who else?
Hollingsworth: Narlene Hollingsworth.
Davidson: Narlene Hollingsworth.
Hollingsworth: Tabitha Hollingsworth.
Davidson: Tabitha, is that your sister?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Davidson: Ok.
Hollingsworth: Mary Hollingsworth.
Davidson: Now, who is Mary Hollingsworth?
Hollingsworth: My other sister.
Davidson: And who else?
Hollingsworth: Little Rick.
Davidson: Little Rick?
Hollingsworth: That's my brother.
Davidson: So little Ricky Hollingsworth, and that's your brother. And who else?
Hollingsworth: His girlfriend, Sombra.
Davidson: Girlfriend, who?
Hollingsworth: Sombra, I don't know her last name.
Davidson: Say her name again.
Hollingsworth: Sombra.
Davidson: Sombra, ok. And you all were going where, again?
Hollingsworth: Mm - to pick up my grandmother from work.
Davidson: And what time did she get off work?
Hollingsworth: At 10:30.
Davidson: At 10:30, she gets off work.
Hollingsworth: I think. I'm not sure.
Davidson: So you - well, what time were you all out there? What time did you go uh - down the service road?
Hollingsworth: Sir, that was a year ago.
Davidson: Ok, so you don't remember?
Hollingsworth: All I can just tell ya is - is a little bit.
Davidson: Ok. So you don't remember what time you were going down there, is that what you're telling this jury?
Hollingsworth: Naw, I ain't telling the jury that. I - I -
Davidson: Ok. Who are you telling that to?
Hollingsworth: To you.
Davidson: Ok.
Hollingsworth: I'm the one talking to you.
Davidson: Ok. Well, tell me now, uh - do you remember what time it was?
Hollingsworth: I'll say 10:30.
Davidson: You say it was 10:30.
Hollingsworth: How is that?
Davidson: Ok. Now, what kind of vehicle was this?
Hollingsworth: A red Ford Escort.
Davidson: A red -
Hollingsworth: - Station wagon.
Davidson: - Ford Escort?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
The Court: Did you say station wagon?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Davidson: How many seats are in there?
Hollingsworth: Uh - 2 and plus - in the back, there's 2 front seats and then you got a back seat and you got a uh - the back, for like a spare or something. And that's where most of the kids was, sitting in the back.
Davidson: Who are - when you say "kids", who are you talking about as kids?
Hollingsworth: Uh - Rick and Sombra and Mary.
Davidson: You sure that you were on the service road, is that correct?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Davidson: Ok. Where were you seated?
Hollingsworth: Uh - uh - in the middle seat. I was sitting right next to my grandmother when she got in.
Davidson: So, you were in the middle seat?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Davidson: Who else was sitting there?
Hollingsworth: Uh - it was me, Tabitha, and um - which my dad was sitting in the front with mom, which was Ricky. But when she got in, we made enough room for her - so she could get in.
Davidson: Who was driving?
Hollingsworth: Narlene.
Davidson: Is Narlene your mom?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Davidson: Ok. And you were in the middle with all these people - you were in that middle seat, which side?
Hollingsworth: I was on the passenger side, where the door is.
Davidson: Is there not a door on both sides?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir, but I'm telling you, I was sitting on the right.
Davidson: Ok. Now, ya'll have talked about this quite a bit around the house, hadn't ya?
Hollingsworth: Naw, not that much, why?
(courtroom laughter)
Davidson: Since this happened last year, you all sat around and talked about this, hadn't ya?
Hollingsworth: Not that much. Just off and on, very often.
Davidson: Did you go to the police statement and make a statement regarding - or police station and make a statement regarding this?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir, the next day.
Davidson: The next day. And um - these people that you say that you saw out there uh - what was uh - Domini wearing?
Hollingsworth: She had black pants on with sort of a black shirt - the shirt was black but the pants had white flowers on 'em.
Davidson: Pants had white flowers on 'em. Are you sure this is the people that were in there - in the car?
Hollingsworth: Yes - yes.
Davidson: Ok. Just a minute, your Honor.
(pause)
Davidson: When did you say you went and talked with the police about this?
Hollingsworth: Very next day.
Davidson: The very next day. And uh - did you talk to 'em any after that about this?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Davidson: And uh - when you talked with 'em the next day, did uh - did you give 'em uh - a statement?
Hollingsworth: No sir.
Davidson: And uh - did you write anything down that next day?
Hollingsworth: No sir.
Davidson: Did they write anything and have you sign it that day?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Davidson: The very next day?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Davidson: Do you remember who you talked with?
Hollingsworth: Gary Gitchell.
Davidson: Gary Gitchell. So, the very next day, what day would that have been? The next day?
Hollingsworth: Sir, I don't have the slightest idea. That's been a year ago.
Davidson: What day was it that you saw these people?
Hollingsworth: May the 5th.
Davidson: Ok. So, the very next day, May the - would that have been May the 6th?
Hollingsworth: I think so.
Davidson: Ok. So May the 6th, uh - you talked to Gary Gitchell about this?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Davidson: Ok. And gave him a statement?
Hollingsworth: I ain't gave him a statement til May the 7th, I think.
Davidson: May the 7th, you gave him a statement.
Hollingsworth: I think it was Friday.
Davidson: On a Friday. Did you talk with any officer any after that?
Hollingsworth: No sir.
Davidson: Did you talk with uh - is this your signature down at the bottom of this page?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Davidson: Ok. Can you read those dates?
Hollingsworth: Ha, yes sir.
Davidson: What are those dates?
Hollingsworth: May the 13th.
Davidson: Look at it again here.
Hollingsworth: Uh - it says "25th day of May - 3rd".
Davidson: Ok, did you also talk with 'em on May 25th?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Davidson: Could it have been that's when you talked with them rather than these other times?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir, I made my statement May the 3rd, I think - or 25th.
Davidson: May the 25th is when you talked to 'em?
Hollingsworth: Yes.
Davidson: So, it wasn't the next day?
Hollingsworth: No, sorry about that.
Davidson: Ok. And that's the only time that you talked with them since then?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Davidson: So the only time you talked with them was on a Friday, May the 25th, is that correct?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Davidson: Thank you.
Fogleman: We're almost through, Anthony. Anthony, I want to show you this and I want you to look over that. Just take your time and look over that.
(pause)
(mumbling)
Fogleman: (mumbled question)
Hollingsworth: Yes sir, it is.
Fogleman: Is that the statement that you gave to the police?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Fogleman: Alright. And it was on May the 25th, wasn't it?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Fogleman: Atleast that's what the date is on there.
Hollingsworth: That's right.
Fogleman: Uh - when you gave that statement - looking over that statement, does that help to refresh your memory as to the time it was that you saw 'em?
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Fogleman: Alright. Let me get over here where I can see the statement, excuse me. And did you write in here - tell them what time you saw 'em?
(pause)
Fogleman: See right here. Or about what time you went to pick up your aunt, uh - grandmother.
Hollingsworth: Yes sir.
Fogleman: Alright. And what time was it?
Hollingsworth: 9:30.
Fogleman: Ok. Did you also say something else in here about the condition of their clothes other than just 'dirty'?
Hollingsworth: They was muddy.
Fogleman: I don't have any further question, your Honor.
The Court: Anything else?
(mumble)
Davidson: Nothing further, your Honor.
The Court: Alright. You may stand down. You're free to go. Call your next witness.
